Dwins’s Weblog

What’s up with OpenCore?

Posted in Ideas,Open Source Software by dwins on August 6, 2008

So I got into work a bit earlier than usual today and had a chat with a couple of other TOPP developers about stuff. It was kind of rambling, as many casual conversations are; we moved from a discussion of how all interns should give TOPP Talks before they go to the way that we often don’t know what interns are working on to how a recent intern didn’t get to actually work on her supposed project for much of the time she was at TOPP. And then, since the project she was working was a sort of project management tool for TOPP software projects. (At the time of that project’s inception I wrote a pretty high-level blog post about what might be involved in adapting Opencore to serve that purpose.) Nothing has come of that project at this point, and I never hear anything about it so I can only assume that the project’s dead. Anyway. From there we went to a discussion of the state of Opencore and it turned out to be pretty pithy, hence the blog post.

What is Opencore?

Opencore is the software that powers openplans.org. It pulls in different software components and unifies them into projects, which people can create and administer through the web. The intended user base is small non-profits and other organizations that need some basic web presence and organizational tools, but may have better things to do with their funds than hire a tech guru just to have him run a simple website. Right now the components that make up a project are

  • a wiki
  • a blog
  • as many mailing lists as you want
  • a task tracker
  • and some admin tools to secure and control the various components.

All this sounds pretty decent. But oddly enough many of the projects on openplans.org are software projects, and quite a few (I can name eight or nine without looking) out of the 800 or so projects on the site are run by TOPP employees for TOPP projects. One would expect that, if we’re targeting organizations that would otherwise need to scrounge up technical talent, actual techies would prefer some place that doesn’t dumb things down quite so much. So…

What’s Wrong with Opencore?

It’s kind of weird to look at an OpenPlans project from the point of view of a project admin (which I do from time to time).

The Wiki

Opencore projects have this kind of anemic wiki; it basically is just a bunch of pages that happen to provide a convention for linking to other pages in the same blob. You don’t get a lot of the organization and management tools that a lot of other wikis provide, like change notification, categories (with auto-compiled content listings), special page types such as slideshows, page templates or really anything aside from a wysiwyg editor that is a little annoying to work with. (Maybe this has a lot to do with why so many of our projects deal with software projects; people who are already technically minded don’t mind switching to the source view, but everyone else has only the option of ditching openplans in favor of something that’s more pleasant to use.) A lot of these features are pretty important for managing more than trivial amounts of wiki pages (a good editor is important for managing any wiki pages at all).

The Mailing Lists

The mailing lists in OpenPlans are pretty workable, in that you can interact with them pretty exclusively through email and most of the time that there is something for you to do, you get an email that says ‘reply to this email and hit send to <do something>.’ You get essential capacities like restricting who can send mail to the list and being able to set multiple administrators to share the load of moderation. There’s even a web archive so you can browse the list even when you don’t have your mail client handy. There are a couple of pretty important things missing here though; there’s no facility for digest messages, and when you browse the archives of a list where even a few of the users include message bodies in their replies duplicates of messages dominate.

The Task Tracker

I don’t use the OpenPlans task tracker for any of the projects I’m involved with. It seems that this was a few of the developers’ intro project when they started working at TOPP and hasn’t seen a lot of polish since making it into Opencore. The UI for it suggests that it supports subtasks, priority listings, filtering by priority, assigning tasks to specific project members, deadlines, etc. seem to be in place. I don’t know whether notifications are in place, but they’re the only thing I don’t see mention of that would probably be generally useful for a shared task management tool. So why don’t any of the projects I’m on use this? Probably the mailing list is sufficient for all the non-technical projects, and the technical ones are more demanding of a task management tool so they use something like Trac.

The Admin Tools and Sitewide Stuff

The project management tools are decent, ish. The main problem I have with them is that you can’t message an openplans.org user for any purpose, ever. If you get an join request to your project and you want to find out more information about who the person is before accepting them, you had better hope their profile page has the information you’re looking for. You can’t message them, not even to explain why you are declining their join request. Even after someone joins your project, you can only message them through the project’s mailing list. While there are good reasons (spamming, privacy) behind this decision, I think there are really compelling reasons behind letting people message users and there should be some reasonable compromise to allow messaging in the important scenarios.  Another problem is that you can’t search all of openplans.  There is a global search that can be restricted to ‘people’ or ‘projects’ where it searches profiles or project wikis respectively, but mailing lists and blog posts apparently aren’t worth searching for.  (It looks like they aren’t exposed to Google either, so no easy workaround.)

The Blog

For blogs, Opencore uses WordPress. Since starting this blog at WordPress.com I have been consistently impressed with the quality of the tools provided and the amount of ‘connectedness’ that it provides with things like trackbacks and blogrolls. WordPress is great, and Opencore uses it pretty much uncustomized aside from switching out the rich text editor for the one used in the wiki. There are a few weirdnesses with the integration of WordPress into the site; WordPress provides a second search bar that searches just within the posts in a single blog and there are a few styling problems. In general, it’s a pretty nice experience.

What’s so Bad About That?

I mean, don’t all software projects have some bugs that need to be fixed? The short version is that the WordPress integration demonstrates that Opencore is quite capable of pulling in third-party party tools and making them part of the ‘openplans experience.’ But, it is the one and only piece of third-party software that is used this way. The wiki, the mailing lists, and the task tracker are all projects for which TOPP is a major contributor. We have 20 or so developers who’ve been working on this for two years or so, and rather than having a nice solution based on best-of-breed, open-source tools like WordPress, we have a bunch of things that we are stuck maintaining and which have a lot of ‘catching up’ to do before they are even with tools that are available to us at no cost. It would be different if we were working on something that worked substantially differently from any existing tool, but the fact that we don’t need any conjunctions to describe the components we have demonstrates that’s not the case (“wiki”, “mailing list”, “task tracker”, and “blog” are all common enough classes of tools to have generic names).

So… What Needs to Happen?

I don’t know.  Maybe nothing.  There is a bit more than just the technical factors at work here, and I can’t claim to be familiar with the social/political issues at play, and I’m sure that just throwing out all of the work that’s already been done to have a different, albeit more functional, piece of organization management software would cause a lot of pains both in retraining users (which we can’t do because we don’t have any control over users’ time) and migrating data (since our wiki stores pages in plain HTML and most others use a customized markup.)  Still, the current situtation leaves a lot to be desired.


That is one semantic wiki!

Posted in Cool Stuff,Open Source Software by dwins on August 3, 2008

I talked a while back about this talk program I’ve been working on at TOPP (program as in scheduled events, not program as in software.)  So far I’ve been managing it using an OpenPlans project to organize things (one talk == one wiki page, plus a main page that lists all the talks ever given, grouped by whether they’ve been given yet or not (upcoming talks first, click the link above to see what I’m talking about).  So when someone wants to give a talk, there’s a pretty straightforward process:

  1. The speaker tells me (s)he wants to give a talk.
  2. I say “Great, put a page on the wiki so I don’t forget you told me that.”
  3. The speaker puts a page on the wiki.
  4. Later I talk to some other people who run things at TOPP and find a good time for a talk, so I go back and rearrange the main page on the wiki.
  5. A couple of days before the talk, I send an email to the office saying there’s going to be one.  (The actual timing varies as I am kind of forgetful, and sometimes I spend too much time trying to badger people into giving me a summary to include in the email.)

This left me thinking ‘man, I wish the wiki knew more about the data we’re keeping there so it could automate some of this stuff.’  So when I saw Semantic Mediawiki I was pretty excited, since basically all it is is a tool for making a wiki more aware of what’s in it.  Today I finally got around to installing it and went from a basic LAMP setup to talk management application (with HTML, RSS, and iCal versions of the upcoming talks schedule) in about 2 hours.  It’s pretty cool (by which I mean really awesome in potential, but relies a bit on having lots of people following some not amazingly well-advertised rules.  Semantic Forms looks like it will help, but I haven’t played with that yet.)  As long as all talks have their own page with a [[scheduled for::some date]] tag on it someplace, they get pulled in automagically to the various feeds.  I was even able to embed a nice autogenerated table of upcoming talks in the wiki main page with a search like

{{#ask: [[scheduled for::>now]] | ?speaker | ?audience | ?scheduled for}}

where the stuff in brackets is the query and everything that starts with a ? is some attribute I’d like to include in the table.  Pretty sweet right?  Aside from smart page listings in wiki pages, SMW allows browsing by the different attributes you add.  So in the table when it says ‘audience: Non-techies’ I can follow the link to a page about non-techies, which links to a listing of all pages that are tagged as having that audience in mind, which seems to me like it’s way better than hand-maintaining ‘interesting’ lists of pages.

Anyway, it looks like there’s a lot of potential here, but a little bit of polish should go into it before it’s ready to replace the current ‘David polices the wiki’ approach.